tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post2100122204742692100..comments2023-12-26T19:43:01.770-08:00Comments on FAMILY PRESERVATION not Adoption Separaration: The Times They Are NOT ChangingMirah Ribenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13626873757236976251noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-60664924226620836912009-12-24T12:18:06.027-08:002009-12-24T12:18:06.027-08:00Madam, I regret your infertility, however nowhere ...Madam, I regret your infertility, however nowhere in the post you are commenting on is that word even mentioned, much less blamed.<br /><br />I have factually reported in other writings that much of infertility - including delayed childbirth - is PREVENTABLE. That is not at all "blaming." Some forms of cancer are also preventable by changing lifestyle habits, but that doe snot "blame" cancer victims to stress the need for prevention.<br /><br />Bottom line: infertile of not, no one has a right or entitlement to another's child! There is no right to adopt. it doesn't exist. A right to parent one's own child does, and should be a bit less taken for granted.AdoptAuthorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16916713887846028762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-59611829505377218472009-12-24T10:45:51.377-08:002009-12-24T10:45:51.377-08:00Wow, you talk about blaming birth mothers and then...Wow, you talk about blaming birth mothers and then you blame women for being infertile, calling them the barren community. I'm infertile. I didn't find a decent man to marry until I was over 30. It just didn't happen. I didn't have abortions or multiple sex partners. So it's okay to cast aspersions, to name call and to blame me? Superior much? You're just as judgmental and horrible as the people who would assume all birth mothers are trash. Take a look in the mirror. You're horrible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-77515603121320943332009-01-07T19:48:00.000-08:002009-01-07T19:48:00.000-08:00Improper...Abortion, STDS and dleayed childbearing...Improper...<BR/><BR/>Abortion, STDS and dleayed childbearing are all preventable cuase fo infertility. However one cannot accurtely state that:<BR/><BR/>"Abortion PREVENTS fertility later on, and causes miscarriages." <BR/><BR/>It ca be a contributing cuase of infertility problems...especially multiple abortions. But clearly there are many, many women who have had a limited number of abortions and experienced successful subsequent full term pregnancies and deliveries of healthy children.<BR/><BR/>I am a proponent of having all of this knowledge of the preventable causes of infertility taught in health classes in HS so women don't put it off indefinitely, have multiple sex partners, risk STDS etc...and then are heartbroken at their inability to conceive or carry a pregnancy to term.<BR/><BR/>Too many women think they can play and play and NOT pay! Old cartoon - "OOOPS, I forgot to have a baby!"<BR/><BR/>Cafe press has it on shirts and coffee cups:<BR/><BR/>cafepress.com/oopsforgotbaby<BR/><BR/>More serious coverage of the issue:<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/9bnssdAdoptAuthorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16916713887846028762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-20779899783606068052009-01-06T07:10:00.000-08:002009-01-06T07:10:00.000-08:00You know, one thing that is NEVER talked about, es...You know, one thing that is NEVER talked about, especially amongst the Pro-Adoption Barren Women community, is that alot of barren women had abortions in college and in their early 20's. Abortion PREVENTS fertility later on, and causes miscarriages. They they want to Adopt...Of course they keep this their dirty little secret....The Improper Adopteehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04460201280334904431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-36043379195073276132008-12-22T17:38:00.000-08:002008-12-22T17:38:00.000-08:00Totally agree.All contested adoption need to be re...Totally agree.<BR/><BR/>All contested adoption need to be resolved QUICKLY - without the delays...AND visitation MUST be liberal during the BRIEF decsion-making period!AdoptAuthorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16916713887846028762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-52705751573944961052008-12-22T17:08:00.000-08:002008-12-22T17:08:00.000-08:00Mayeb the feelings of Lenore who grew up with adop...Mayeb the feelings of Lenore who grew up with adoptive parents and Jessica/Anna and Richard who were returned and raised by birthparents are just due to being satisfied with how they were raised and the people who raised them, and unable to imagine it being otherwise. Some adoptees might be angry, others would not.<BR/>And of course the winning parents would portray the losers as ogres and the kids might tend to agree.<BR/> <BR/>All those contested custody cases should have ended with returning the baby immediately when the mother asked, soon after surrender, but they were dragged out into the horrors they became.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-71979555472521449752008-12-22T09:33:00.000-08:002008-12-22T09:33:00.000-08:00It horrible for Olga but also bad news for ALL of ...It horrible for Olga but also bad news for ALL of us, especially those in contested adoption. <BR/><BR/>I have often commented on blogs that support the adopters in these battles telling them their kid might not be so happy with them for keeping them from family. I will consider this an exception. They are still taking a huge RISK of being hated for it! baby Jessica and Richard both hav stated they are happy having been returned.<BR/><BR/>She sounds like the quintessential "good adoptee." Her parents - and the press - did an excellent job of pathologizing her mother and brainwashing her against her mother.AdoptAuthorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16916713887846028762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-38986418929066599182008-12-22T04:19:00.000-08:002008-12-22T04:19:00.000-08:00Yes, very depressing. I was very sad to read this,...Yes, very depressing. I was very sad to read this, although I had heard about it some time ago. Poor Olga.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-6762823686011754462008-12-21T19:02:00.000-08:002008-12-21T19:02:00.000-08:00Thanks for that very disturbingly, depressing upda...Thanks for that very disturbingly, depressing update. I always wondered. Guess that's been there since '95.AdoptAuthorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16916713887846028762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2384966947084602158.post-51263093203707981222008-12-21T16:00:00.000-08:002008-12-21T16:00:00.000-08:00This is sad postscript to the famous "Baby Lenore"...This is sad postscript to the famous "Baby Lenore" case. Not the outcome we hoped for or predicted, Lenore grew up to hate her natural mother Olga Scarpetta and to feel her adoptive parents the DiMartinos "rescued" her by fleeing to Florida. So much for "some day the adoptee will be angry at what happened" Read it all here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1995/08/20/1995-08-20_custody_fight_left_scars_paw.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com